The Harlot and the Woman in Rev. 12

Revelation 12 woman was not the Harlot. She may have been Israel or Mary. I cannot be dogmatic on this one. She delivered Jesus Christ, the Word, into the world. 

The prophets died in Jerusalem. (Revelation18:24). The Harlot was likely Jerusalem.. Some say it is possible the Harlot of Revelation 17 is physical Rome. It destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD. But the Harlot killed the prophets. Jews killed the Jewish prophets as we see in Acts 7:52:

"Was there ever a prophet your ancestors did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him--"

I reject that it is Rome because the language of the prophets point to Jerusalem as being the harlot. Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD and was buried in 135 AD. This judgement was on ancient Judea, so far not on modern physical Israel! 

Rome was the beast, not the harlot. Rome from Nero to the last emperor in Nero's line attacked Christians. 

Keep in mind though that the book of Revelation is primarily about the ultimate victory of the Word (Logos) also revealed as the Lamb who is with the Almighty, making up the temple of the heavenly Jerusalem. In Revelation 21 and 22, the Lamb is God and is with God. See John 1 and Revelation 19.)

But the second theme of Revelation is the destruction of physical Israel which was centered around 70 AD. We have to allow for the probability that Revelation 17 refers to Jerusalem. After all, the prophets were killed there! Rev 18:24

Here the prophets used language against ancient Jerusalem similar to what we see in the book of Revelation:

Revelation 17:3-4

Now the woman was dressed in purple and SCARLET clothing, and DECKED WITH GOLD, PRECIOUS STONES, and pearls. She held in her hand a GOLDEN CUP filled with detestable things and unclean things from her sexual immorality. 

Ezekiel 16:1-63

...“Son of man, make known to Jerusalem her abominations... “Therefore, O PROSTITUTE, hear the word of the LORD: Thus says the Lord GOD, Because your lust was poured out and your nakedness uncovered in your whorings with your lovers... I will gather them against you from every side and will uncover your nakedness to them, that they may see all your nakedness... They shall STRIP YOU OF YOUR CLOTHES and TAKE YOUR BEAUTIFUL JEWELS and leave you NAKED AND DESOLATE. 

Revelation 18:22-23

The sound of harpists, musicians, flutists, and trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore. No craftsman of any craft shall be found in you anymore, and the SOUND OF A MILLSTONE shall not be heard in you anymore. THE LIGHT OF A LAMP shall not shine in you anymore, and the VOICE OF A BRIDE AND BRIDEGROOM shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by YOUR SORCERIES ALL NATIONS WERE DECEIVED. 

Jeremiah 25:10

Moreover, I will banish from them the SOUNDS OF JOY AND GLADNESS, the VOICES of the BRIDE AND BRIDEGROOM, the SOUND OF A MILLSTONE, and the LIGHT OF A LAMP.


The current unholy Jerusalem is not under immediate judgement because it is a sign that some with Jewish DNA are being called to be Christians. Luke 21:24 and Romans 11. But the current Jerusalem is not Covenant Jerusalem. That was decided in 70 AD. The Old Covenant rolled away. The New started with the resurrection of Christ!

So, Jerusalem is not holy and historically it disobeyed God and lost the covenant with God, which was conditional based on obedience, not grace. So now, the new heavenly Jerusalem is believers in Christ based on grace alone! 

The New Zion is believers! Christians who have Jewish ancestors have no command to live in Israel! Physical Israel is just a sign that God is calling those descended from Jacob no matter how little DNA they have that is Jewish.


The New Law of Christ:

The New Law of Christ is God given faith to the end, not sinless perfection as required by the law of Moses. If we say we have no sin we are liars, but the goal of God given faith is holiness. 

But those who believe in free will trust in a man generated faith. They see people who have their kind of faith falling away regularly. But the reason is, it is not the same faith that the Bible speaks about. Real faith is evidence of things unseen. Heb 11:1. Peter said he obtained faith. It is not obtained by everyone!

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